Ep. 35 Can you work with your spouse, homeschool, raise good kids and a have a loving marriage?

Is anyone really perfect? Can you achieve perfect balance in life? That's what we're talking about in today's podcast as we recap where we've been, what we've been up to, and answering some of your most burning questions about working together, raising good kids, homeschooling them, and trying to balance a loving marriage with a working relationship.

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Hey guys, welcome back to the Digital Income family podcast. It has been a minute we took the summer off. Clearly we had a baby. I know trying to like sit here and shush. I remind Doug every time we do a podcast with an infant that we did it with alas infants, so why can't we do it? What's gonna happen? I don't know if it's kind of this one's different. This one is testy. This newborn baby. Yeah. Anyway, so if you guys like obviously, this podcast goes up on our business channel. And I have like a lifestyle YouTube channel where I like showed the birth not the whole thing, obviously. But like, you know, I talked about it, but this is Jane Madeline. Yes. This is being like, you can't see her really at all. She's so cute. Right now. She's eight pounds. She's born at seven pounds. Yeah, she's pretty heavy. She's getting up there. Yes, I can kind of feel that on my back, you know, saying all right. Yeah, just like, anyways, so because we've been away for so long, we thought we would do like a q&a. We asked you guys. So we did a seeker tap on Instagram. And so we got some questions relating to like, I hate to say this, but like work life balance, which is such a joke, because he's holding an implant. No. And that's the thing is, it's like, you know, working I know, we talked about like, oh, we have a business channel, we have a families channel really? Like that's all a big mishmash blender of everything. You know, it's kind of how it is. I feel like that's kind of just how life is though nowadays. Well, I think we just purposefully do this to ourselves, like we blend the two and some people would hate it. And we've tried to like segment our family life versus like our business life by getting an office. I just mentioned this on stories, actually, on our Instagram Stories, which if you don't follow us over there, we have like a shared account, I'll link it down below, or I'll tag it, whatever. And you guys can look us up. But basically, I was talking about the fact that we tried to segment our life for years, like we strive to have like this perfect schedule, and nothing is perfect when you blend the two. And it's just not something that we really like anymore. Like, you know, I don't know, what did they kind of like? There's no one solution, because I feel like life and kids are just ever dynamic. Okay, some people would say just if you get an office, like if you get an office, then that will solve your problem. But the thing is, is that, like, our needs are different. Yeah, like needs for each kid as they get older to are different. And so it's like, sometimes I can be in an office, but then other days is like I shouldn't be in the office, I should be there doing something with my kids that day, or you know, something should be happening or it just I feel like it should be fluid as lame as that sounds like, you know, we're, we're gonna and we'll probably talk about this, but we're trying to add some like regimen to our day for the family and doing things like that. And we're trying to be a little bit more strict in some ways, but it's like, I feel like we tried everything outside of like putting the kids in school. Yeah, just like a lion. No, we tried that across. We've done that. I mean, yeah, I guess. Preschool. Yeah, I mean, that wasn't really we were there for like one and a half weeks and we were at the preschool the whole time. I was I'd sit in the parking lot and watch animal dog was a psycho. For sure. I was like, kid. You're like watching? Yeah, and then guess what? There was a bully. That was I was bullied, bullied. No, I wasn't bullied at all course not. The bullying. Yeah, but anyways, yeah. So let's just talk about those things today. You know, answer those questions. We'll kind of go through some stuff if you guys have like questions, more questions, follow up questions, you can always leave comments down below. But honestly, guys, we're so out of it. So out of it. Like it's been a wild night. We didn't get much sleep So recap the night. Can we just recap? Why not? Okay, need to recap anyone will nothing I guess. But let's just say we have a child that's here. That's a baby that like barely sleeps. Okay, my other child got stung by a bee and cried about it the entire night. Okay. And she was just crying and crying about her foot the whole night and kept kicking me and daddy my foot the whole time. Like the whole night. Okay, then we're a potty training all of her are two year old. So you can guess what might have happened throughout the night and stuff. First time for everything for accident wise, but it was It's wild. And I wake up dog every once in a while to like, hold the baby because yeah, it's not that hard. Yeah, sometimes it is that sometimes she's like, wait a week, and I have to talk to her. I like 315 in the morning. Oh, eight pounder. Like, let's play like, what are you doing? Jane? She's like, Okay, let's get to the questions. Okay. Well shouldn't ask us that. Do you want to do you want to? Yeah, so we'll go through again. It says, Well, what have you guys been up to? Yeah. I mean, it's just funny that people ask that because they act like I don't know, maybe maybe it's like with some kind of mystery what we've been up to. Maybe it's some kind of secret or something. Yeah. Well, let's just talk about what we did this summer. Yeah. So this summer, we took a break from social media, like an intentional break, because, yeah, I just think like, what do you wanna say about that? Yeah, I mean, I would think that like I took it off my phone. on offer phone, we were trying to just do some different things but take a break and step away to kind of reevaluate. I heard this from somebody on the internet, they were saying like every so often you step away and reinvent your business or reinvent the way that you do things. Patrick made David Janya. And so and so, you know, you need to reinvent yourself and you need to do some things. And I think that this was that season for us was to step away, do weird things like camping and RV. And we're trying to reinvent ourselves as a family and as a business. And in order to do that, we stepped away for a little bit. Yeah. And so yeah, we didn't I like tried to share as much as I could today on social for the first time, but on Instagram, specifically, but we, when Doug says reinvent, we don't mean we need like become new people, which is always nice to like, step into the whatever Gen Z years phrases next version of yourself, you know, my level girl era level off. But I think for us, it's like, what do we how do we want to live our life? Like, that's been a big question we've asked ourselves, because I know it sounds so cheesy, but like we can really do anything like with our business model that we've chosen through like pursuing courses, making some of our income passively. We're like, Okay, do we want to live in California still answer the big question always. Or I'm a we do right now, because our families are sort of here, but that's another travel. Yeah. Do we want to travel full time? Which sounds like Insanity? Because like, hello, Bill, we already live in insane life. So like adding a little infant doesn't really so I wouldn't say yeah, I mean, you're right. I wouldn't say it's not a reinvention. We're not reinventing ourselves. But I would say it's like an era of reassessment. Yeah, like, that would be a really good way to put it, you know, it's like we're stepping back, things are changing, babies are being added. You know, like, there's changes in social media, there's changes in the way people are doing business. And it's like, we can reassess where we want to go. And this is always my excuse for like, not having a five or 10 year plan. But it's like, the plan is dynamic. Yeah. Like every, every six to two every six months to two years. Like the plan is dynamic, something new comes out and new opportunities and new opportunity. There's new fears, there's, there's new rules, there's new laws, like there's stuff happening in the media, like social media is looked at weird, like people are weird. There's all kinds of crazy stuff going on in the world. Right. And so I, you know, it's you can step back and reassess a lot. Yeah. I also think too, like, especially just for us this summer, we have just been gaining a lot more knowledge, like, as weird as that is, but like reading more books, I mean, we always do but like, just getting new information. We've started to question like, if ces I mean, we always do this on the podcast you but if society's rulebook or playbook or whatever, society's plan, yeah, is something that we want to subscribe to, like, we already, you know, question it, because we homeschool. That's how it kind of started well, and started when we didn't want to live like a eight to five grind. And, you know, Doug started questioning. Like, why am I commuting? Like, for an hour in LA traffic, literally, like three blocks over? Yeah, it's tough to, you know, hit a pay ceiling, whatever. And so it started with that, then, you know, the homeschooling thing, we became entrepreneurs. And so now we're kind of like, do we want to live in the same place? Like for the next 10 years? Or do we want to try something different? So we randomly rented an RV on outdoorsy Oh, yeah. Do you want to talk about that? I mean, what is there to talk about? It's not that we hate it. We didn't you know, what did we rent? Like, what was it? I mean, back in our day, how much it was 200? Yeah, we definitely can. So we started back in the assessment. We were like, Let's, let's just do this. Let's figure this out. So we went out with like, our group of mobile friends, homeschool people, church people, and I was like, Hey, we're going camping. A spot opened up. You guys want to roll and we were like, it was like 3/4 trimester pregnant and I was like, What is fourth trimester? What does that trimester? What does that mean? third trimester? Yeah, what the heck? I don't know why. The fourth trimester is postpartum, isn't it? That's like a funny phrase people saying, oh, no, yeah. Hey, it was not fourth trimester was full blown pregnant. I literally mean, she was like, 39 weeks. I was like, Dad, should I go? He was like, Yeah, but don't tell your mom. Like a nurse and she's gonna say not, but she said I was fine. Anyways. Anyways, we went out we went on outdoorsy because our friends were like, but hold on, I was gonna take camp. That's what I meant by saying I was heavily pregnant. Well, we weren't always like, Ah, well, we were going to 10 camp and we're like, Hey, do to ask about this or group of friends. Like do people RV and they're like, yeah, we'll RV. I'm just like, we're like, Okay, well, you're very dangerous. So we decided to get an RV on outdoorsy and super last minute. Like it was like days out. We're like, alright, let's just find one go. Was it because this is always so interesting to me. I don't remember the exact Yeah, it was like 2027 80 or something nice because like you have to for how many RV so that was for four night four or five nights that's it was like five grand for five nights. So we're just like, you know, because you have to pay for gas and then we had to pay for like you had to go like Why say it's not expensive. It's all relative. You know, we like to we'd never we never like to say the phrase it's expensive. Well to our kids, we no way say that publicly, but it's like, is it worth the money that you paid the chateau? It was literally flat or the picture on it. Like when you look at the pictures on outdoorsy, they look flawless. You know, this guy has two of them. So he's obviously slinging like RVs on outdoorsy and making some money. I'm like, is this a business I would never want to feel like had a stack of papers when I was signing the paperwork, get a stack of rentals lined up and here's like, I would never want that as a business. It's just so like, it's not my jam, like fixing an RV. But anyways, it was not as nice as the pictures led on but it's fine. Like we're not that like, you know, picky. But do we want to talk about like pros and cons of it? I mean, we'll go really quickly. Yeah, as we solve a lot of other questions to get through. But we the reason why we did it is because there's so many people like like I was saying, you can live we can live whatever we want. You know, we thought okay, we love Idaho. What we don't like Idaho, like North Idaho, specifically beautiful, but like, am I gonna be in claustrophobic? Yeah, like, whatever. Like with all the trees, if this is north, right, fog, dreary, it's so snowy. So we thought we'll live there for six months. We'll live here for six months. That way we can like be with our families and still like, we like the values of the Idaho and people. And so we thought of that. And then we thought, I don't know, we should just like travel and like see the US My sister did that she really liked it. And that whole like, sell everything and travel for six months. We thought we could do that. I know it's like for relatedness not well, people do it with somebody we so that's why we were like let's try it for a week. Yo, the Chateau was a POS Okay, listen, let me rephrase. Shout out to the guy on outdoorsy because he took care of us, right? Definitely not watching it took care of us. But, man, the Chateau was just It was a rough like everything shakes. It's so loud, so loud, like it's just dirty everywhere. The floors are like the fake laminate, which you expect, you know, in a car or like whatever it's fake laminate flooring, but the dust gets everywhere the dirt gets everywhere. I think it's everywhere. We're like RVing in a Walmart parking lot like my sister and people that do this like legit you know, they go to they go find like, where it's not illegal. We're gonna find a real real pricy up in here No, but like it would that would be one thing because there's no dirt like the campground we went to just burnt down. Yeah, just burned down. So it's all ash. Yeah, so like it was beautiful. We went to the Sierras. Yeah, but all of her I think we probably when you have some kids yeah, we go over has like just black on his face. He looks like blackface. You can What are you literally they'll literally you can only see his white teeth. So when you have kids and you're like using an RV to camp sort of it just like the stuff tracks into your RV. Then you got like, Ash you're on your bed. You got Asher on your stove. Then when I'm cooking, nobody wants to cook. Yeah, I learned that if you do have an RV in your camping, you just take everything outside and cook it all outside. But then what's the point? Just like tent camp anyways. So I'm like, you know, making bacon. The grease is flying all over the place. The bed is like right next to me. You know? And then the fridge smells like for some reason. Like what's up with that? I don't know. Like it doesn't smell because it's like not working. It does work. But when you open it like food like natural. Oh, my dad was actually saying that when you have like a regular fridge in your house. Like it really keeps the smells it but the RV fridges kind of suck. I don't know there's reasoning behind it well, so you open a little you smell it when you go to sleep at night. Grab and drink of water as well. So the RV like it was crazy because the first right hand the first right hand turn so it's like everything fell out of the frame, which was just crazy. Like when we're on the road. Yeah, it's supposed to lock it everything whatever. Anyways, I was freaking out the whole time. Okay, so there was that? Whatever. That's cool. Okay, then we wake up one morning halfway through the trip smells just exactly like sewer. Yeah, just street sewage. The guy was like, Oh, you won't need to empty out the green black water out all the whole trip. I needed to like the first day. Yeah. Had to empty the poo tank. It was a great time. Yeah, I got sprayed myself in the face a little bit. So anyways, the story is, we prefer an Airbnb like, Yeah, and actually, someone commented on our Instagram and they were like, We did Airbnb full time for like, a couple months. And we better. That sounds like a fun time. Maybe we'll try that. Yeah. Okay, let's go on to the next question. Because you guys only hear about my poop stories. So let's get um, somebody asked us and I thought this was super interesting what I was like how it was for kids change the business. And I'll kind of lump in some of the other questions here. But as things like, making money what's for kids? Is it harder three or four? And like, how do you balance that? So how does that go? Yeah, I think like, seriously, the more kids you have, the harder it is like I know. I don't know. It's hard like I think just in general, the more kids you have. It's systematically hard like scheduling wise, but like mentally I think it gets easier. No, like, she's here like whatever I'm not stressing that all of our took a nap at starting at two o'clock and we're gonna be up till 10 o'clock tonight. Like I don't really care about that with my first I would have just been dying like, he's gonna be up so late, you know? Whatever. Yeah, our other two We're having quiet time. And so scheduling wise, we're more like fluid go with the flow. No, definitely. You just have more more personalities to deal with, right? You know, there's just more, more more demand more people and there's more stuff to do. And so like that part, in essence, like Haley said, the scheduling side makes it way more difficult. Yeah. And every kid is different. I think when you have like, when you have all your kids under one roof all the time, like with a business and homeschooling certain kids, they demand more like certain, you know, like, some kids are easier, like, honestly, they're just more What does Jordan Peterson say? There's like a word. I forget. But like, they're just easier. Kids. There's a word. I have no. Okay, whatever. And so some kids, they are more high need. So you need like they need a schedule. Most kids do. But not all kids, some kids. I mean, I was like a very go with the flow. I don't need to schedule. Yeah. And so because of that, you have to really cater to all of your kids personalities and tendencies, whatever. agreeable. That's the word. Some kids are just more agreeable, you know. And so, most people aren't like that, you know, and so we have to make sure that we are more scheduled. Yeah. And so that was another part we had to not like that. Yeah, we had to reassess that with the business too. Yeah. Like how can our business adjust to not compensate, but to kind of like work with this new allotment of schedules with the way that our kids are growing and adapting and doing things? So like, sometimes you think, Well, do I just tried to work in office all day? Do I try to just take sales calls, the better for the family, for the family and the business? And then d what do you put for first, like some there's been phase of life where we're like, we gotta put the business first. Because even though it might be better for the kids to see their dad all the time, or their mom all the time, it's just like, it's, it's, I don't know, it's like a give and take? Yeah, you know, it's, it's just annoying to choose that sometimes you do need to work. Yeah, there are, there are times where it's like, you have to do what you have to do, right? Like, you have to, like go through the hardships of making the money and doing the things and and you know, struggling with going to sleep late and waking up early and stuff like that, you have to do that. But then there are also times where it's like, you have choice. And so we were kind of in an in between phase, which is kind of weird, because we do have choice, and you know, the business is good. And we do have a choice, but it's like, I'm holding a baby now. Yeah. So there's a lot of adjustments to make. But I guess specifically one of the questions there that's there and I'm trying to read it was my glasses, you know, I can barely read from that far away. It's, it's, you know, somebody wants to really ask us, like, how do we make money from home with littles? Like, just in general? I mean, I guess we can lightly touch on how to do this, or do they mean, like, I didn't know if they meant we should have followed up. But like, do you want to know, like, the exact way that it happened? Well, I think we grew a lot over the summer with our YouTube channel. Like we had a couple of viral viral videos. So a lot of people don't know, like anything about us. Well, it's true. It probably is that we I mean, for anyone that knows there anything weird. No, but we make money through online courses. So we don't just teach people how to do online courses, although it's kind of evolved to that is like what we focus on, because that's really where our knowledge lies. Yeah. So we feel like sometimes, sometimes I feel like that's one of the best, biggest ways to impact people. Yeah, you know, teach, teach them and we have kind of thing. Yeah, but we also have courses that we sell on social media, you know, how to grow and monetize a YouTube channel. We were full time YouTubers, a couple years email, Instagram sales, but also specifically like how to build an online business, how to actually influence people with a small following. Yeah. So that's basically what we do. And it allows us to be able to work from home, we can be with our kids. There's no hours. I don't have to report to anybody. Yeah, we're the bosses. We do love lightweight team. Yeah. Like, you know, some people are like, I have my lightweight team of 19 people. And I'm like, 19 people. Yeah, there's way too many people. Yeah, I think there's just different phases of life. Yeah, right. Now there are. Yeah, that's what we that's how we make money from home. So we basically like we teach people how to start and run an online business. Yeah. And that kind of rolls into the next question, which is like, how are you able to take time off without worrying about an income? And the thing? That's a loaded question? How is that a loaded question? Basically, the way we're able to do it is because the our business model allows us to make money without always actively selling all the time. And exactly, because it's so many things. So like, because we started an email list, right? When we started this specific business, yeah. Because we get a lot of word of mouth referrals. In because we've grown on social media for so many years. And it's because you know, a lot of our social media is evergreen, we don't do things. We try to stay away from things that are like, one time one hit wonder, you know, like basing our whole business model off of needing to post Instagram reels I'd rather die I tried to do it for like, not not enough. Like I mean, it's a real thing, posting rules every day and getting like clients that way or core sales, whatever passively, quote, unquote, it's not because you have to post reels every day, you know, it's just not the life for us. Like we're more long winded clearly. And, you know, short form content platform being Like the pillar of how you make your money, it's not really conducive to being a present parent. So that's why we like YouTube and podcasting. Yeah, yeah. Because those things like, you know, actually give value. Yeah, their search their search, it's usually like on a search engine like YouTube. People can search it, people can find what you put up, you rank for it. People, the whole idea is that we want views without having to post today, like, like, I want views today without having to post today. That's, that's how you're able to make money and doing it that way without being too cringy. And getting into the whole process that's there. But yeah, do you have anything else to add to that? Like how we were able to do those kinds of things? Okay. That's totally fine. Um, we haven't podcast pod What does that even word in months. So if you do want to see exactly more like the strategy and specifics, we have a ton of other episodes on this podcast that link one down below. We'll link one down below explains our funnel like, and if you don't know what a funnel is, we explain what that is. But it's basically like turning a viewer into like a customer. Yeah, it looks like yeah, it looks like the whole process that's there and how everything works. How do you homeschool while running a business? That one's rough. And actually, I think the thing we've been trying to figure out the most Yeah, is homeschooling that's harder than the business. Like mentally for me, because it's new. Yeah. So moms are rolling in their fingered graves. Right? Yeah. It was just like advanced. Yeah. I was gonna say rolling in there, like overalls or something. Oh, my gosh, there's a lot of stereotypes. You could throw they're rolling in there. barefoot. Yeah. Or feet, whatever. Okay, what homeschool moms? Okay. I think the cool thing about homeschooling for a little kids is that they don't require a ton of education all the time. Like, like you'd think in a regular school. Since it's like a one to one tutor style style nearly since we are one to one with our kids, they learn. They grasp concepts super fast. Yeah. So whereas like if I was to sit in a class, which we both went to regular school have like 20 or 30, or even 12. Like, you know, it would take maybe a month to learn a basic concept towards you could drill her in like two or three days. Yeah. Yeah, that definitely helps. And I mean, it's like, could you imagine sitting in a classroom, like a public school classroom, and every kid had a teacher right in front of them? Like you would learn so much, so much more quickly? Yeah. We want to ask questions. I was trying like never did. We never got picked like to ask questions. He would always raise your hand and he would be like alright, next moving on. He leaves Oh, yeah. Like I wasn't such a shy child like I was. Okay. Yeah. Hit the mountain. Yeah, I've kind of figured knows but anyways, how do you do it? We issue only requires like, two hours of actually like schooling on math. Language Arts reading. What our spelling handwriting. Yeah, we have a Rachid. Yeah, but only one of them is actually homeschool. Like, like legit, like, like, every day. We're homeschool. Yeah. So our eldest is only six and so are the one below that is okay. So for sick start with the heck Six for Two and a new newborn that all tears apart. When our second oldest turns five. I will be more intentional with her. Although she can almost read because she's like, still there. Yeah. So she's she wants to see what our sister is doing. And she like loves little books still. Sure. All right. She's pretty about that. The rest of the subjects like history we do, like, I know science, things like that. We do Charlotte Mason philosophy we like loosely based it. So it's very heavy literature based. So we're reading these intense books with the children. And then they do like copy work narration things like that. But yeah, it's doesn't take that much time. So it takes like two hours, or one and a half hours in the morning or maybe like one Yeah, I would say something like that. But we try it. We try to drill it into the schedule. Right. So like, how do we homeschool while running the business? Well, if we're not trying to divide time, like we're trying to split time, one with one set of kids and one with the kids being homeschooled. Yeah. And so that allows us, you know, maximum flexibility because Haley doesn't want to teach math. No. Okay. So we can switch and we still have PTS we can do what we need to and we can you know, Haley can take them somewhere or I can take them somewhere to go play while Annabelle gets gets taught. And so we're able to do that. And since it is just animal, it's an hour or two day of homeschooling and then the rest of the day is spent doing fun things still educational stuff like we did PE today I took the kids out to PE so the one thing that we do know is like we're probably most likely not going to take the traditional path of a homeschool family where the mom teaches all million of the kids, whatever, you know, it's always these larger families. And we are one of them for kids is like a big family. But the mom teaches the kid that dad has gone all day. And Doug, we thought about like, Should we do this, but Doug likes to be involved, you know, do with the kids. He doesn't want to just see them for like an hour or two hours at night when they're tired. He wants to be there even though it's it is harder. I mean, sitting in office, it's hard to all day. Yeah, I mean, it's hard, but it's I would say it's like a different skill set. Yeah. You know, to some people, you're like you're a preschool teacher and you're super into it and you can you can be on all the time and doing these kinds of things all the time. People are better at sitting at a desk alone for eight hours. Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to do that Monday through Friday. No. And but the thing is, is that like, I don't want, like, I do want to sit at a desk alone by myself all the time. But not more than I want to see my kids growing and doing things with my kids. Right? Like, that's, that's the main difference is that I would rather be with my kids doing the things even though it's harder for me personally, in my personality. I would rather be trying to teach animal math or doing PE and trying to teach them about health and doing science things, balloons and fun stuff like that. You know, I would rather be doing that. Even though, like, spiritually, I'm not a teacher. Yeah, a little kids. You do have little kids? Yeah, I would say teacher, little kids. Yeah. I mean, we have students that we teach and coach. Yeah, that's difficult. Yeah. But I also think like, you know, as far as traditional family, like, when the time comes, we understand the value of obviously paying someone that's more experienced, we do this like ourselves. I got asked this the other day, if somebody was like, Do you know chemistry? Well, you know, I don't know the history, like so you're homeschooling, but you're gonna mess up chemistry and like, yeah, like I remember any of the elements besides Agee's gold. That's the only one like, does it make sure now just kidding. Yeah, John's got, they do remember something? But like, who cares? First off difference of opinions there. But yeah, like so we will hire a tutor, you know, and I've looked into homeschool teachers. I'm not against someone that is more credible, whatever experienced, coming into my house and teaching my kid to be really freakin smart. Like, I love that. Like, let's touch on this for a second as I adjust my hat because there's a serious point here. Okay, your grandpa homeschool. Yeah, this is my legit walked into my grandpa's closet. He took me in there and was like, Hey, you want me to stuff and I was like that hat. Anyways, anyways, this is legit. People will die over the real grandpa. And the real Grandpa 20 rights. So look, we don't homeschool because I think I can teach better than a teacher. Now. That's not the point of homeschooling. The point of homeschooling is like controlling curriculum, controlling exposure to things, okay, not having forcing my children to see certain things or hear about certain things that I want them to hear about. You know, maybe you want to give them a specific curriculum. It could also be as simple as like, I want to vacation whenever I want with my kids. Yeah, I want to have to wait until spring when everybody else is vacationing to at the same time. Yeah. So it's like, I'm not here because I think I know physics better than a physics teacher. Okay. Although my physics teachers weren't even physicists or anything. They were just people reading out of a book in public school. Yeah. Like that. Like, it's, that's not what we think. So yeah, we're gonna find a homeschool tutor. Like, we're going to find teachers. We're going to educate like we're going to, but we're also going to take them places. You guys want to learn about Egypt? Like, let's go to Egypt. And let's go check it out. And we can learn about it there. And we can do those things and try not to get scammed. But just learning all about that. Yeah. But yeah, it's like, that's, that's the point of homeschooling for us. And so the way we deal with the business is really I think we put right now. Oh, hello, we're putting homeschooling first a little bit more, you know, would you agree? Would you say that? Yeah, because it's the first year where she's first grade, you know, you want them to be really good at reading at this point, kindergarten, you can kind of not that you'd slack off. But like, you can really catch up the it's play, you want them to play all the time and even in first grade. But that's why it's just taking we have to learn more source for ourselves as teachers. So I would also say like with, with homeschooling in and doing this at such a young age, we want to do it ourselves. Because like you can have such a negative experience in school at a young age and ruins you for the rest of your life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Totally, like, I folded a book and one time like a book page, because I wanted to save my place and some lady came up to me and folded my ear like the teacher. She was like, how would you like it? If I folded your ear? She like 90 years old. Yeah, she was she's gonna get her stick out. Yeah, we're gonna see if I nobody watches this. But her last name was Striegel. And so you could see her. It's a lot like my ear down. Do you? Sure. Super nice. But man, she wrecked my air bro. Oh, yeah, it was crazy. But that shouldn't be going to jail today. No. soft, soft kids, you know? Okay. Let's see. How do you indulge divide up the tasks? Which tasks? I think probably business tasks, not hometown. Oh, you just do math. And I clean everything. Just kidding. Like that's it's exactly that. Because there are times where it's like, you know, Haley won't do things like bathe the kids, like, oh, I don't do that. I've told him so many times. I don't want to be them. I'll do anything else. I'll cook every meal and I'll clean as much as humanly possible. But I don't want to do this. I don't want to want to like bend over the bathtub as he tries to fight me every day. I'm like, I'm sorry. I put the grip. She doesn't even mind. Okay, whatever. It does not work. How do we divide up the business tasks? We really just play to our strengths. So we used to say Haley was a CEO and Doug as the CEO. Oh, but I didn't like that because I felt like it was putting them down which is not. It's just I'm the person that comes up with the ideas because it's what I love to do. It's like I'm a dreamer creator. That's how my dad kind of bred me. And Doug is to get it done without him. nothing would get done. Because I'm like a headless chicken. Yeah, I would say that's kind of the tasks are not. Yeah, they fall into one of those two categories, right? It's like creation ideation, or Doug's very implementation, logical, rational, yellow two months. So all logical and rational, but I'm too much of a dreamer. Like, we're like a perfect combo, in my opinion. Yeah. So that's, I would say, that's how we split them up. You know, we, like Haley said, play to his strengths, try to figure out like what each of us wants to do, but is also better at doing Yeah. Okay. And he's also willing to be able to do and try to figure out, okay, if neither of us want to do that, then what do we hire out? Like? Yeah, like editing and stuff like that, you know, doing some of the other stuff that's there. But I maybe specifically, I mean, specifically for some of the stuff that they do, obviously, I'll do things like, all the tech work, because I did that for a long time, you know, just professionally, but to all the tech stuff, like website stuff, trying to figure out like, you know, talking to any web devs or figuring out people that need to work on our site, or I have no clue, you know, hiring people on Fiverr Upwork. Doing the hiring and negotiations, stuff like that, Haley, I don't know how she would negotiate people on Fiverr. And that'd be amazing. Yeah, yeah. So I'll do stuff like that. But then I will also sit there and do like the sales. Yeah. And, you know, train people and do that kind of stuff and figure out the standard operating procedures. Oh, and I shutter. It's because I had I probably I mean, I would say one like I had a Japanese dad that like just drilled regimen into me and like doing those kinds of things. But to also have like, more professional experience. Yeah, Doug, how a business operates, literally was working in Yeah, yeah, for five years and see for a long time, I'd quit after like six months. Yeah. And, you know, just grinded my gears. I don't know where that thing came from. Haledon even quit. She just stopped going. He just stopped. That was for different reasons. Hey, did you know there was a movement called Silent quitting? What? Well, yes. It's like these new phrases. I told him all the time, like these Gen Zers. Slow out was like slow living these weird phrases. And I'm, I'm I tell him like on YouTube. Yeah. There's like niches that we don't even understand. Because we're just old now. Yeah, like one of those students is like quitting. It's when people just leave because like the bosses even deserve like, I quit. And that was my situation. And you know what side sidebar this call with this conversation real quick. side tangent. I kind of get it. Okay. You don't? Why do I have to give you two weeks but you can can me like in the middle of my my tuna salad lunch? Well, if they were a good boss than you, you know, like they deserve then I would want you're just going to like because you're moving or because you want a pay rate. And they can't give it to you like I get it. But most of the time you quit because they suck. I mean, I remember where you were at. You didn't like it. It wasn't fun at all. And it was the best location it was like overlooking Manhattan Beach. Yeah, they brought in like food was like very la vibe. So cool. Right now it was horrible. Yeah. Anyways, which is crazy. Quiet quitting. Yeah, so funny. But so just quiet quit into the slow life. Anyways, dividing tasks, I think it depends on like, the season of the business. Like when you're a solopreneur. You know, you just got to do what are hired out? Yeah, like you have. You just have to learn all the skills or else you can't train anybody. You've had to learn everything. You've had to learn video editing, we've had to learn negotiating styles, so many. Email marketing, social, you gotta learn everything as a solopreneur. You don't know if someone that you're hiring is even good, if you like, kind of don't understand how to do. Yeah, you could just be getting just ripped off. Yeah. So like when we hire a video, when we hire a video editor, we know how long this should take when they say, Oh, it took me five hours, like, should take 30 minutes. Just like this looks like it was recorded on iMovie. Yeah, so in a foreign country? That's yeah, yeah. So we like no. And that's the same thing for the website. Like, yeah, so we've just been doing this for so many years, like making money online and different ways that we've had our hand and like so many different tasks. And so many ways, as far as, like, what I do is, like all marketing, and creating of the products, yeah, a lot of the products, Doug's in there as well, but, and he does like a lot of sales right now. But it's going to expand and change. Yeah, it's definitely gonna change. I will say, though, that Haley has like this special ability to see what people what people need, and like what's needed in the market. And she has a really good handle on, like, things that are coming. Okay, like a while ago, he was like, Where are you going with this? A while ago, you know, Haley would said something like, Hey, we got to figure out what else we're going to be looking at doing. Because before you know, lots of people are gonna be doing courses and our courses are more normal, you know, three, three or four years later, they're not oversaturated on No they're not oversaturated at all, but I'm just saying like, people it's not it's not like a trends come and they go not that this is a trend because almost had been around since my dad and he's 70 I know like on tape. Yeah, like that. That's not what I mean. What I'm saying is that it's like, people know what, of course is now Yeah, so Looks like you're no longer you're not like a novel fear. Yeah. Or we're not a pioneer. So it's like what also we're gonna miss this thing for like YouTube content training. Yeah. So you always got to look forward though was not me. Obviously she makes like funny noises Yeah, no, but yeah, that's that's one thing that I would say Haley, like if we were to look at, you know like hard skills and soft skills I'd say a soft task than Haley has is just like keeping a pulse on how things are going and like what's what's happening. It's called anxiety. Yeah, because I'm just blind to the whole thing sometimes. Although that's changing. It's different. It's not blind. You're just trying to get things done. Yeah, I just, you know, just downplaying it a little bit. Yeah. But anyways, I think that's everything we're probably going to cover. Yeah. I feel like that was kind of a good catch up in terms of where we are and stuff like that and what we've been doing, but, yes. Next, in a couple days, we are going to try the Airbnb thing. Oh, we move quickly. Yeah, because we saw a second. Yeah, I can't believe we did this. Well, so is the RV thing. We're gonna tell them no, no, I think we'll probably just podcast from from the place. Yeah, we're gonna see if we like a new area to maybe explore. Yeah, we, we don't really necessarily want to right now in the market that it is of Southern California and America to put all of our money into a$2 million home. So we're just kind of like, what do we do? You know, maybe you guys should let us know. Let us know what you guys think, where we should live? What we should explore what we should do stuff like that. Because it is it is very interesting. We are at the time in our life. Like we said, we can assess and see what we're doing $2.5 million on a house I'm kind of assessing not. Not that like we can or should No, no, it's no, I really want that we want to and is that the right decision? Yeah, you know, because you can take that money and put it on a number in Vegas or something on roulette. Like, there's so many other things that you could do with that, like that amount of money that are there to make you more money. You know, like I was just watching a video and I think it's like Grant Cardone talking about its own jam, don't like don't just buy one thing and then get one payout from it. Like buy something that gives you a residual return on whatever it is that you that's another thing the last thing we're probably gonna end on here is like home ownership. That's like another podcast seriously a topic but home ownership is so praised and it is a cultural like milestone, you know, like you are successful. Even if you're only making 50 grand a year if you own a home. You did good Bobby, like you could be your parents are proud, everyone's proud. But it's like that homes not gonna make you money for a very long time, if at all, and if it does, like is it even worth it? You know, you could have taken the money, start a business and done anything else with it. And so we don't really like idolize homeownership, we love like renting. And that's kind of weird. Like, I don't really have the desire to paint the front of my house and to like, I like to hoard ultimate flexibility to be able to do the things that I want to invest where we want to take risk where we want. If we live in Kansas, it'd be a different story. But like, yeah, we totally the homies in Kansas, we don't really care so much about that. But anyways, that's pretty much it for today's podcast. Chang made it Do you have an ad? No, you know, we're gonna have we have a lot more content that's gonna be coming out soon. We have a ton of stuff that's coming. We're super excited about it. Like Haley said, we're gonna be going to some other place. So hopefully you guys get to see that and enjoy that. Leave us comments. If you're listening to some apple podcast reviews are always awesome. Let us know how we're doing stuff like that. And we will see you guys in the next one. Bye guys.